Resident Evil: Caliban Cove Part 3

In this episode we get some pretty grotesque descriptions of what happens when you stack a pile of bodies and let it sit for awhile. Gross. But fun! But mostly gross.

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Phil

So uncool. They they they they find a way to slip the knife right between the ribs. Right, right.

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Kevin

Between the ribs. You know who never slips a knife right between your ribs. Who's that? Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to Pixelate. My name is Kevin. With me, as always. Is Phil.

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Phil

Stab. A stab.

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Kevin

Stab, stab. And today, we are continuing our reading, recapping and reviewing of Resident Evil Caliban.

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Kevin

Cove.

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Kevin

By Steve Perry. So yeah, this book is. This is a fun book. This is fun. It's a fun, short little book. And it's a nice it's nice romp through through a zombie sci fi horror story. And I give Steve Perry a lot of credit that to turn to basically carve something completely new out of the cloth of the Resident Evil verse and and make it enjoyable to the point where I'm like, I wish this was I wish this was one of the games.

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Phil

I, I 100% agree every time I have every basically every chapter of this, I've gone this would have been a good game. Why didn't they make this a game? This is, this is pretty good like this. She she gets the branding just right. Yeah. While also instilling her own style on it. Like we're not dealing with Japanese melodrama, you know, horror the way that Resident Evil would continue on to become.

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Phil

Right. For someone's own spin on it. It's, it, it's very recognizable. As Resident Evil.

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Kevin

Yes, exactly. So where we left off last time was with Chapter nine. And just as a recap of what happened prior, basically. Rebecca Chambers, in case you're you're just joining us for some reason for this episode. Rebecca Chambers joined up with this rogue group of stars, agents who are trying to uncover what's going on at a place called Caliban Cove in Maine, which is a that's the umbrella facility where they think there is the leader of the star's group, David Trap.

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Kevin

He thinks that there's some sort of goodies there for their investigation into how deep the umbrella and stars and general corruption goes. So Rebecca joined up. They they tried to do a sneaky, sneaky invasion of Caliban Cove. And that did not work at all.

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Kevin

No.

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Kevin

They got their boat got flipped. They had to swim to shore. And then they got shot at by Zam Bose with guns.

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Phil

They sure did.

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Kevin

They sure did.

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Phil

They they cut straight to was it for when they first started using guns or was it five?

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Kevin

Well, I know in four, they they were using weapons and throwing things. And yeah, they were armed and there was a dude with a chainsaw.

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Phil

That's true.

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Kevin

There's the guy with the chainsaw and the bag on his head.

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Phil

Yeah. I think it freaked me out. Yeah. So we, we we skipped ahead in an era in this novel, you know, the first era of Resident Evil was very strict in terms of its zombies. Right. We were in the second era here for this one with. Right. Shooty zombies.

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Kevin

Yeah. And, you know, you could. You could say that the transition was was Nemesis who is a monster who uses guns against. Yeah. Notably, a rocket launcher.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Phil

That's. That one's kind of hard to miss, but so about that.

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Kevin

One, they basically escaped the gunfire, and they've made a made their way into one of the locked up buildings and it's like a and they found out found all these computer terminals and their their hacker, their hacker and marksman, Steve, who is he's he's a dreamboat, as we found.

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Phil

Can do it all, can't he, Steve?

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Kevin

He can do it all. He's on the cover of Tiger Beat It.

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Kevin

The cover.

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Phil

Of it. Zombie Beat.

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Kevin

Zombie Beat And so in chapter nine, they're in this room and Steve is looking up information on what's been going on. And they've been giving the infected basically IQ tests, it seems like, and they have a series of IQ tests. So where they go up in terms of how smart the zombies are at problem solving. Yeah. So Red being the lowest and then green and all that stuff.

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Kevin

And one of the things that happens is all the computers, they just they just shut down and a riddle appears on the screen. Yeah.

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Phil

Another riddle.

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Kevin

Another riddle. It wouldn't be Resident Evil without riddles.

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Phil

It truly wouldn't.

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Kevin

The riddle that pops up is the man who makes it doesn't need it. The man who buys it doesn't want it. The man who uses it doesn't know it.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

And for those of you at home, do you know what the answer is?

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Phil

Tick tock. Tick tock. Kevin, is it a coffin?

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Kevin

It is a coffin.

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Phil

It's a coffin.

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Kevin

It's a coffin.

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Phil

But they go in a casket, or is it the other way around?

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Kevin

They start with casket, and that doesn't work. And then they try coffin.

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Phil

Yeah. Which is fine.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

I mean, if I was writing the, like, programing a riddle into a computer, I probably would have made them both work. Sure, sure. Just to, you know, because that's kind of a bullshit.

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Kevin

Right?

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Phil

I think this is actually a really good example of Perry taking something that wouldn't have worked as well in a game and putting it into the book and vice versa. You know, the puzzles that we see in Resident Evil Games as we found out in the first book, don't always translate. They do not know. And so but a riddle in a book works.

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Phil

Even if you know what the riddle is, you can enjoy watching people try to figure it out. But it wouldn't have worked as well in, well, this type of game.

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Kevin

Right. Right.

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Phil

Exactly. She she knows that she needs to get some puzzles in there and that kind of thing. But she's also smart enough to know the whole like sword key in the sword lock thing isn't quite as compelling when you're not actually running around looking for the bad.

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Kevin

Right. Exactly. So they after answering it, they kind of they they or before answering it, Karen and David basically come back and they have a piece of paper that gives a lowdown on the way the tri squads engage with people and it's very convenient for if you're walking around the island because they find out that there's two, you're there's usually two teams of tri squads and a team and a B team and the B team won't fire or engage until a team has been destroyed.

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Kevin

Right. So the beat team, affirmative backup, they're permanent backups. So the beat teams are just kind of like sitting there just like waiting for the A-Team to fall apart.

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Phil

Right. Right. Exactly. So and that's that's just and that's another great example of just the games in general is like, wow, these people sure did leave a lot of easy to find notes hanging around that provide convenient clues.

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Kevin

Right. Exactly. They find out that once they answer the riddle though, they they get some information on how there's a few other tests that they have to solve in order to access the information that's been hidden. Away. That's been squirreled away for them. Yeah. Tests for seven and nine blue to access data so they they are basically understanding what to do next.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

That's that that's like the little low down chapter of, of, of, of this. The section here.

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Phil

It's kind of a it's kind of a safe room sort of moment.

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Kevin

Yeah, it's, it's what I was searching for. It's basically like the safe room music is playing.

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Kevin

Right.

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Phil

And they're getting a minute to actually go through the notes and say, oh.

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Kevin

Just sitting there reading documents, you know, they're, they're in there. They're, they're in the inventory screen right. Now.

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Phil

They are, they are rearranging things, turn it vertical, maybe like, oh no, that's no good. You know, just. Yeah, that's, that's pretty much in, in, in universe. What's happening?

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

So. So they decided to split up. So John and Karen are going to be on one team David, Steve and Rebecca will be on the other team, and they're going to split up and try to try to solve these these tests as quickly as possible. So first we follow what's named David and Rebecca and Steve.

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Phil

Yeah.

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Kevin

As they run through they basically just they run through the it there's all these buildings in there. I feel like the way the buildings are set up is they're kind of like in a it's like a long stretch in there. Like on either side, there's like four and four or something like that, which is the way I was picturing it in my head.

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Phil

An actual map wouldn't have hurt in a moment like this.

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Kevin

In actual map. Like, you know, you can publish a map in a book, right well, never.

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Phil

Mind, but why not?

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Kevin

You can.

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Kevin

We can we can we can stand to have a half page dedicated to a map. Yeah. Just give.

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Phil

Us figure what's.

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Kevin

Your age Just to help describe it, a picture is worth a thousand words.

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Kevin

Here. Right, exactly.

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Phil

Just to help us out. But yeah, yeah, we it's it's kind of. I did, I did find myself just going. All right, fuck it. The buildings are around. Got it.

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Kevin

There's buildings, and they're like. And I could feel my brain hurting where they're like, all right, you two are going to go diagonally over to this building. We're going to go over this building. And I'm like, All right, wait. Hold on. Oh, God damn it.

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Phil

It gets a little technical.

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Kevin

At any time. Really? Any time you want to lose me as a reader, start explaining layouts and logistics of buildings.

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Phil

Exactly. Now you have three degrees north by northeast, and I will watch the sun set and base my next movement on that. Great, great, great. I'm going to light some incense and go to sleep.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

I used to. I would read a Tom Clancy book and just skip pages. I would really I would just read the pay the book, like, huh? He's still talking about the fucking plane.

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Phil

I actually never read that. Now, I was thinking about this the other day because, you know, when you think about things like splinter cell and stuff. Yeah, that's that's Tom Clancy worlds. We know they're books based on that. I've never read a Tom Clancy book, so I figure we'll probably get to it eventually, but eventually.

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Kevin

Yeah. The only one that I think he wrote the Tom Clancy book that is based on a video game that Tom Clancy actually wrote, I think is Rainbow Six.

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Phil

No kidding. OK, OK.

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Kevin

And the length is very much Tom Clancy. It is OK. Rainbow six is a big fucking book.

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Phil

It's going to it's going to take us it's going to take us a couple of months.

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Kevin

It's that's what you.

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Phil

Say.

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Kevin

That's like that's like a ten episode.

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Kevin

Right?

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Kevin

Beast.

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Phil

Now, they do while they're describing moving all the buildings and everything like that, they they they seem to be like preoccupied with basically the hypotheticals of like, are zombies out there? Like, are we going to get are we sitting ducks out here? Right.

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Kevin

Yeah. Yeah. They so they they do run across. And so the team. Aye. So so so you're David's you're Rebecca is you're Steve's they dart through the dark and they managed to get into the building that they intended to get into is basically the way I'll say that. Yeah.

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Kevin

Pretty thick. Yeah.

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Phil

They succeed.

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Kevin

They succeed when they get in there, though, they find a gigantic pile of decomposing body.

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Kevin

Yes, they do. Yes, they do.

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Kevin

Yes, they do. And Steve immediately throws up.

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Phil

I love it.

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Kevin

I love this.

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Phil

It's what's that. Oh, book it is. It is. Basically, that reaction is grotesque.

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Kevin

It is.

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Phil

Holy shit. She can write some gore.

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Kevin

She can write some Gore.

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Kevin

Try to find the exact. Oh, here we go. David saw that there is no way to be certain the bodies had started to melt into one another. The blackened, shriveling flesh of the stacked corpses blending and pooling from the humid heat. Maybe 15, maybe 20, retching. Steve stumbled away and threw up.

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Kevin

What.

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Phil

Four like like it's enough to describe decomposing bodies and, you know, exposed, you know, you know, organs and bones and shit. But they're like to literally say that the heat is causing them to melt together, you know, like not literally, obviously, but basically the corpses are liquefying in a giant pile. That's, yeah, pretty revolting.

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Kevin

It's really it's pretty revolting.

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Kevin

So that's where we leave them, right?

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Phil

For a place to leave them.

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Kevin

Now we we have in our event now we have our adventures of Karen and John sexually harassing her.

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Phil

And this is the real meat of the story. I think this is what we've all been waiting for. This is the truth. This is what we wanted.

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Kevin

Could come out.

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Phil

All right. All right. I want to point out real quick, we have we have discussed it. Perry likes to write some thirsty characters. Yes. And and what we're not dealing with is actual sexy times like I don't think they're he's actually into her. It's just like how we quips. Right. But yeah, it's just them covering their own area and him making this stupid.

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Phil

It's like he says something about I'll go in first. It's the way.

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Kevin

Here we go. Yeah. Yeah. John couldn't help himself. My women always go first. He whispered, though I prefer it when we go together, if you know what I mean. I highly do that and wrote L.O.L next to it.

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Phil

I I got to be scared or whatever. Like, look, different gun. No, I don't know what you mean. Explain it in full detail, please.

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Kevin

And then in a in a thought parrot, in a italicized thought that John has like a paragraph down, it says it's my duty to help her lighten up.

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Phil

Yes, John is every white male standup comedian I've ever shared a stage with. John.

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Kevin

John is John is black, by the way.

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Kevin

Is this is good. Keep that in. Keep that in.

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Phil

Keeping him. I want that. I want everyone to hear that that's that was there that just like the whole like I'm healing her with my shitty jokes.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Phil

I'm making her better.

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Kevin

Smile, sweetheart.

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Kevin

Right. And it's not it's not.

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Phil

And the thing is, is it's not so malicious as as what kind of stuff obviously that gets talked about nowadays, but it hasn't aged well.

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Kevin

No, it hasn't aged well. And also, I mean, Karen and John have known each other for a long time.

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Phil

Yeah.

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Kevin

From what I understand. But also it's.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

She nodded briskly, stepping back to let him by. So basically the discussion is who's going to, who's going to go, who's going to lead, like. Right. And ultimately decisions, John is going to go out first. He's going to cut through the courtyard first and then Karen's going to follow. And John, as he leaves he briefly considered telling her that he'd greet her at the door wearing nothing but a smile.

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Kevin

Yeah, yeah. But but then.

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Phil

But then he goes, Nah, got to be professional.

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Kevin

Yeah, but he decided against it. They'd worked together for almost five years, and he knew from experience that he could only go so far before she got pissy. Besides it.

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Phil

Before H.R. got involved.

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Kevin

Besides, it was a good line, and he didn't want to waste it.

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Phil

Oh, John, John.

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Kevin

Johnny boy.

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Kevin

So not.

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Phil

That's a good line. That's comedy gold right there.

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Kevin

That's comedy ground.

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Phil

You save it. Save her that joke. It's like you save that steak. Yeah. Oh, John, buddy, you're healing the world with comedy, my friend.

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Kevin

Yeah, right. So basically what happens next is John, while the other team was able to get to their building and there was basically nobody fired on them, it's the immediate opposite happens. John is going the other way. He's and he's immediately under fire. By by a tri squad shooting there. There are little machine guns at him.

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Phil

Right.

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Kevin

He manages to take two of them down, and he gets inside a building and he's like sitting in the building, you know, under under the cover, trying to, you know, not get shot. And he turns around and he sees two zombies just standing there staring at him.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

And he realizes it's a good moment. He realized he starts putting it together like, oh, OK. This is what they mean by team. The B team won't engage this is the B team for that try squad, right? So he basically they are here. They are so like Karen starts shooting at the remaining zombie and he tells her, don't kill it because the other zombies like won't activate basically as long as one is still standing so they they end up I think they end up killing all of them though.

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Phil

Yeah. Eventually.

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Kevin

Yeah. Eventually they end up killing all the the five that that they found. And Karen, when she gets to the building where John is, her first line is, hey, John, was it good for you.

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Phil

Good for you, Karen.

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Kevin

Good for you, Karen. You know, give it to you. Give it back to them.

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Kevin

Yeah. That's now the.

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Phil

Whole thing with the killing zombies. In a certain order thing. It doesn't it just feel like actual game mechanics to you.

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Kevin

What does it.

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Kevin

Look.

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Kevin

Like? I was like, I'm not surprised. I'm surprised there hasn't been a resident evil that's been like, oh, no, you got to kill the zombies in this order to solve the puzzle.

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Phil

Right? That has never happened. I it it just it's I wouldn't be surprised if if I don't know for sure. I mean, Perry must be a gamer on some level, but. Yeah, it's just I mean, that just felt like straight up game of mechanics.

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Kevin

And she preferred the Uncharted series, right? You said.

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Phil

Yeah, she sure did.

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Kevin

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Kevin

Yeah.

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Kevin

I mean, it could be. And and you know what? And this is off topic, but you know how there's there's games. There's so many games that are like, throwbacks to, like, nineties era games. I feel like the, the resonant evil like a Resident Evil fixed camera style game. There hasn't been like a nice big throwback to that too.

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Kevin

Like the original RB one into stuff.

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Phil

Yeah.

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Kevin

I mean, I've seen them out there and they were usually a right.

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Phil

Nothing that's really gotten people excited, though.

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Kevin

Nothing that's gotten people excited. Yeah. But that was just a thought but it was.

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Phil

Well, it was such a thanks. That's a that's a great example of a mechanic that I feel like some people forgot about. Like, yeah, resonant evil is like a lot of games from that time period, especially that time period where we were still getting really comfortable with 3D graphics. Yeah. And you had to deal with, you know, point of view and everything like that.

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Phil

And whereas it's like a lot of games where you talk about how good it is, how, how, how amazing it was and the God I loved the original was so good. And if you had to play it now, you'd probably throw your controller against the wall because yeah, the twin stick thing and the point of it was it's not the way it inspired a lot of stuff, but it's definitely not the way we do games now.

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Kevin

No.

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Phil

Now things are easier now.

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Kevin

That's true. So things are easier now. Oh, yeah, yeah. Resident Evil Dino Crisis. Yeah. Silent Hill.

00;22;36;02 - 00;22;38;03

Phil

Well, Scream.

00;22;38;15 - 00;22;42;12

Kevin

Uh, no. Parasite Eve was Turn based during its combat, I think, right?

00;22;44;14 - 00;22;52;14

Phil

Yes. Yes, it was that one. But yeah, Fatal Frame that was big into the fixed camera angle.

00;22;53;25 - 00;22;56;29

Kevin

What was it? Uh, is. It is clock tower.

00;22;57;23 - 00;22;58;15

Phil

Clock Tower.

00;22;58;19 - 00;23;02;01

Kevin

Then another one is the get one with the scissor dude.

00;23;02;01 - 00;23;02;29

Phil

Yeah, that was Clock Tower.

00;23;03;00 - 00;23;04;19

Kevin

Yeah, it's clock tower. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;23;05;23 - 00;23;15;13

Phil

Yeah. I mean, that was that was a time like that was a real era there. Yeah. Survival horror is not what it used to be now.

00;23;15;24 - 00;23;53;08

Kevin

Nah, I mean, and there's still plenty of great horror games coming out, but that specific in fact, friend of the show Hot Cider James just did a Twitter thread on Resident Evil Force user interface and how it was the first r e game, Resident Evil game to have the health and the bullets on the screen. So prior to that, you didn't know what your AMA situation was or your health unless you paused the game.

00;23;53;23 - 00;23;56;27

Kevin

Right. The only way to check was on your inventory screen.

00;23;58;03 - 00;24;00;08

Phil

I mean, think about that, but it's absolutely true.

00;24;00;12 - 00;24;27;20

Kevin

And so he did a Twitter thread and about what's it going to look like in the Resident Evil four remake? Is it going to be more like so like resident Evil seven where they had you had the bullets on the screen, or is it going to be some combination of the old RG four and like the new where it it does show you the health because residential seven didn't I don't think had the health on the screen either.

00;24;28;07 - 00;24;31;27

Kevin

Right? So we'll see. We'll see.

00;24;31;27 - 00;24;33;09

Phil

How they've bounced back and.

00;24;33;09 - 00;24;50;16

Kevin

Forth. They have there. There's never been like a really since resume before. I don't think there's been a a really solid way that they have decided to show information on the screen honestly.

00;24;50;16 - 00;25;13;19

Phil

I mean for all my bitching about Resident Evil five and to a lesser extent let Resident Evil for what you can't say you know, they've tried a lot of shit. They have that franchise, so you got to give it to them. They, they have they have made efforts to keep things fresh now they sometimes they fail so hard they fall flat on their face.

00;25;13;23 - 00;25;18;18

Phil

Yeah, but they have tried so they have better than many franchises out there.

00;25;18;18 - 00;25;39;05

Kevin

I am curious to see speaking of horror, how I mean, there's the Dead Space remake is coming out and I know that the Dead Space remake is probably going to do the same thing that Dead Space did, which was, you know, the, the, the spine on the back of that would be the health.

00;25;39;10 - 00;25;39;22

Phil

Yeah.

00;25;39;22 - 00;26;05;29

Kevin

And you can see the guns bullet counter on the back of the gun. The other side, the other thing I'm interested in is Callisto protocol are they going to do something similar to the wait because that's being developed by the development is being led by the guys who made the original dead space and are they going to do something similar with health where it's like it's a minimal extremely minimalist UI.

00;26;07;00 - 00;26;13;12

Phil

Now are they, is there, is it is, are they throwing around those terms like spiritual successor and stuff like that with.

00;26;13;14 - 00;26;29;03

Kevin

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very much cluster protocol is when you they've shown some stuff from it already from recently it's going to be out in December. Somebody said December is that's when you schedule games to be pushed back right?

00;26;29;22 - 00;26;29;28

Kevin

Yeah.

00;26;30;18 - 00;26;49;05

Kevin

Yeah probably so we'll see. We'll see yeah but that was a tangent related to uh user interface and not cider and cider, not the beverage.

00;26;49;21 - 00;26;52;23

Phil

No, no name street delicious friend.

00;26;53;07 - 00;26;54;20

Kevin

Or delicious friend? James.

00;26;55;05 - 00;26;55;18

Kevin

Yeah.

00;26;59;09 - 00;27;06;28

Kevin

Go check out his YouTube channel and his podcast question show. By all means. Anyway, they make it in a.

00;27;07;27 - 00;27;08;13

Phil

They make it it.

00;27;08;24 - 00;27;13;20

Kevin

They make it in in. The last line of the chapter is and after a bit they both started to laugh.

00;27;14;05 - 00;27;14;13

Kevin

Right.

00;27;15;29 - 00;27;16;29

Phil

We're friends.

00;27;17;21 - 00;27;28;06

Kevin

We're friends. We get back to Rebekah, Steve and David, and they're still recovering from the grossness.

00;27;31;17 - 00;27;32;28

Phil

They're not feel it's a lot.

00;27;34;10 - 00;27;50;20

Kevin

They're not feeling so hot. David basically is like, Eric, you to wait here. I'm going to go, you know, solve this puzzle or whatever. And while the while he's gone, we get some some moments between Rebecca and Steve yes.

00;27;50;25 - 00;28;07;26

Phil

Moments with a capital italics capital italics. It's we're getting we're getting really cutesy here with these two where they. Yeah. If we get a do they hold hands, right. Like that's.

00;28;08;20 - 00;28;09;00

Kevin

Now.

00;28;09;04 - 00;28;14;23

Kevin

They haven't held the injury yet. They do. Yeah. They they will though they have they exchange a glance.

00;28;15;01 - 00;28;15;27

Phil

Which a glance.

00;28;15;27 - 00;28;38;18

Kevin

Lingering a few beats longer than a more casual exchange it's described as and then Rebecca. Then Steve looks away and Rebecca is thinking to herself, there was a definite attraction there and it seemed to be mutual. And then she interrupts her own thought with and it's only about the worst time and place to consider it. Her mind snapped, Secure that shit pronto.

00;28;38;29 - 00;28;40;01

Phil

Yeah, you know what.

00;28;41;03 - 00;28;47;16

Kevin

A correct correct. Rebecca Correct. She just she gets really each.

00;28;47;23 - 00;28;49;28

Phil

She gets really space Marine honors.

00;28;49;28 - 00;28;53;24

Kevin

So stow that shit doesn't exist.

00;28;54;21 - 00;28;55;12

Kevin

How do we get this.

00;28;55;20 - 00;28;58;22

Phil

Out of this chickenshit outfit? Like it? Yeah.

00;28;59;20 - 00;29;00;10

Kevin

She's trying.

00;29;00;10 - 00;29;03;11

Phil

Bless her heart. Bless her heart. She's trying to be a Marine.

00;29;03;11 - 00;29;12;00

Kevin

That's trying to be she's trying to be a marine, not just any Marine. Uh, Marine, that colonial, marine.

00;29;12;11 - 00;29;16;19

Phil

Colonial, actually, hundreds of years before that will be necessary.

00;29;16;20 - 00;29;47;07

Kevin

She is she just going that shit? She so they find they're looking around this room and they find a journal entry from a dude. Tom Athens. And they find out from the journal entry that there was a spill and or there was an issue in in in room in block D, room 101. And that's the room where that they were injecting people.

00;29;48;12 - 00;29;49;08

Phil

Yes.

00;29;49;17 - 00;30;11;11

Kevin

And that's like and that's like that's relevant information. Oh, absolutely. And the basically they re like, all right. Well, if we're in a they finally figure out like we're in a that means, oh, well, Karen and John went to D and then they're like, oh, shit.

00;30;11;28 - 00;30;12;18

Kevin

Yeah.

00;30;13;11 - 00;30;14;04

Phil

They have me. They have.

00;30;14;05 - 00;30;16;22

Kevin

Al, they have a Luke Skywalker.

00;30;16;29 - 00;30;21;15

Phil

That means they'll be home and, you know, running them yeah.

00;30;21;20 - 00;30;27;14

Kevin

The poor Karen and John or Uncle Owen and Aunt Peru for.

00;30;28;05 - 00;30;32;10

Kevin

All those you know, and they.

00;30;32;10 - 00;30;45;18

Phil

Say and and the thing is, they, they emphasize, they keep going. Well, look, you know, we it's about, you know, wounds and stuff like that. We know they'll be safe, they'll be fine, but we better go check on them right now. I just imagine the cutting.

00;30;46;17 - 00;30;47;10

Kevin

To the.

00;30;47;10 - 00;30;57;04

Phil

Two of them just licking the walls, talking about the stars, where he's taking stars, where is they're going to be safe. I know. It's fine. Oh, this was delicious.

00;30;57;12 - 00;31;03;05

Kevin

They're they're professionals. They'll be fine. No, like somebody left a open bottle of coke.

00;31;03;23 - 00;31;06;06

Kevin

Huh? It's not busy to.

00;31;06;15 - 00;31;14;01

Phil

Have you ever. See, I do. Look at this Coke. Try this coke. It's still good. Don't worry about wiping it. It's fine. Everyone's dead.

00;31;14;24 - 00;31;18;25

Kevin

Everyone's dead. What do we what are we going to catch?

00;31;19;22 - 00;31;20;07

Kevin

Come on.

00;31;20;17 - 00;31;28;05

Kevin

Come on. And then. And then. And then Willy Wonka does his little thing and the bloopers come out.

00;31;28;17 - 00;31;32;17

Kevin

This is lit and.

00;31;32;18 - 00;31;36;17

Phil

Terror just starts. It's leading into a horrible postulating.

00;31;36;17 - 00;31;39;04

Kevin

Blueberry starts.

00;31;39;04 - 00;31;40;05

Phil

Floating away.

00;31;43;26 - 00;31;44;01

Kevin

Oh.

00;31;44;16 - 00;31;45;18

Phil

I get ahead of myself.

00;31;46;05 - 00;31;46;16

Kevin

Yeah.

00;31;47;04 - 00;31;53;08

Kevin

Yeah, we get ahead of ourselves. And maybe by then I'll have a simple loop. Loompa song thought out and like.

00;31;53;16 - 00;31;54;20

Kevin

Oh, that'll be good.

00;31;55;17 - 00;31;56;29

Phil

You know, you need to do that.

00;31;57;00 - 00;32;07;12

Kevin

I know. I really. I'm really hoping no choice. Blimp and song. I'm not sure I will Meanwhile.

00;32;07;24 - 00;32;08;10

Kevin

Well.

00;32;08;26 - 00;32;10;15

Kevin

David is solving a puzzle.

00;32;11;21 - 00;32;12;25

Kevin

Good, good.

00;32;12;25 - 00;32;13;23

Phil

Well done, David. Good.

00;32;14;03 - 00;32;33;27

Kevin

Good for you, David. We're all ready. He he basically. And what what's hilarious is that they they say that this is like, the the dumbest puzzle of the puzzle that they have to solve. And I'm like, the puzzle that that is given is like, this is not the dumbest puzzle.

00;32;35;12 - 00;32;36;02

Kevin

This is this.

00;32;36;02 - 00;32;41;18

Phil

Isn't bad. I mean, this is this is this is pretty tough. It's not it's not, you know, rocket science.

00;32;41;18 - 00;33;19;03

Kevin

It's not rocket science. But basically, there is he finds a chessboard and a series of numbers and trends or. Yeah, trends clue lets him remember that it's it's it's it's something about letter number reversal so he it's like a is 26 and then he he figures all the numbers out and the letters spell out Rex marks the spot and so he's looking at the chessboard and he says well Rex is Latin for king so it touches the king and that does, that solves the puzzle basically he gets it.

00;33;20;10 - 00;33;23;15

Kevin

That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's a pretty good puzzle.

00;33;23;26 - 00;33;27;24

Phil

I and I know because I would be in there looking for a dog.

00;33;31;24 - 00;33;32;12

Kevin

I.

00;33;32;12 - 00;33;34;13

Phil

See Rex Marcus. I go, hey, boy.

00;33;35;06 - 00;33;37;11

Kevin

You're great. You good with Rex?

00;33;37;11 - 00;33;38;02

Phil

He's got the key.

00;33;38;02 - 00;33;39;18

Kevin

Did you get a key?

00;33;40;11 - 00;33;42;11

Phil

I've been searching no dog. No dog at.

00;33;42;11 - 00;34;01;01

Kevin

All. No dog has to turn around. I thought my dog was in the room with me, but. Oh, he's not. Sometimes he's just so still and, like, he curls up in a little ball and he's like, so still that you forget that he's there but he is not there right now.

00;34;01;10 - 00;34;02;16

Phil

Now, not this time.

00;34;02;27 - 00;34;29;20

Kevin

Not so. One of the things that I love about Steve Perry is that she writes in her her all the stuff takes place in real time. So when we cut back to Karen and John, they've already done the stuff that people like. Like we cut back to them after having found room one. 01.

00;34;30;00 - 00;34;32;25

Phil

Right, right. We don't have to go back and forth and back and forth.

00;34;32;25 - 00;34;56;18

Kevin

We're not there is she doesn't she doesn't jump in timeline when she writes she keeps everything very linear in time, which I appreciate. And I know some writers can do it. She did it with the first book, too. I know some writers will play fast and loose with time in terms of like like this scene. Me like, oh, this scene took like 30 minutes ago in this scene and never this, this this is good.

00;34;56;18 - 00;35;14;00

Kevin

I like this. I like this game adding basically it's after they've already been in the room and Karen is is Karen and John are just kind of sitting there shell shocked about what they found in the room. And they're just kind of like thinking and talking about like that was fucked up.

00;35;15;01 - 00;35;15;14

Kevin

Right.

00;35;18;07 - 00;35;18;25

Phil

Oh, that's, that's.

00;35;19;09 - 00;35;21;08

Kevin

Oh, OK. Oh, jeez.

00;35;21;08 - 00;35;35;02

Kevin

So now so they found the they basically found the, the room where people were being injected. There's gurneys, there's blood everywhere. It's gross. There's just piles of needles.

00;35;36;08 - 00;35;36;18

Kevin

In the.

00;35;36;18 - 00;35;37;05

Kevin

Sink.

00;35;37;23 - 00;36;00;03

Phil

It is, it is really it's surprising how when based on the descriptions that Perry does here, how infrequently the this is the setting in an actual resident evil game. Yeah. Like you don't get a lot of rooms that are just covered in corpses and blood and. Right. It's it's genuinely.

00;36;00;03 - 00;36;01;25

Kevin

Surprising. Yeah.

00;36;02;23 - 00;36;20;21

Kevin

So they're basically just kind of chilling out in the hallway and and David, the other team walks in. They're like, hey, come back here. And meanwhile, Karen's eye is itching it.

00;36;20;27 - 00;36;22;14

Phil

Don't don't miss that part.

00;36;24;04 - 00;36;40;06

Kevin

Small detail that's mentioned a couple of times in power within the within the scope of like a dozen paragraphs or more, maybe 20 paragraphs. There's there's like a couple of like one or two sentences about Karen's eye itches.

00;36;40;16 - 00;36;45;03

Phil

Right, right. Don't don't forget that she rubbed it for a second. You're like, sure, rub it.

00;36;45;03 - 00;36;50;03

Kevin

Oh, oh, God. Oh, Karen.

00;36;53;26 - 00;37;06;06

Kevin

So basically, David, David meets up with John, Karen, and he's like, Whatever you do, you'll go in room one. I would rather like.

00;37;06;12 - 00;37;07;00

Kevin

We already got it.

00;37;11;05 - 00;37;11;14

Kevin

Oh.

00;37;14;20 - 00;37;19;28

Kevin

It wasn't a big deal. We didn't touch anything. We don't have any of it sign right now.

00;37;19;28 - 00;37;24;00

Phil

Well, damn. Oh, she said something. We were doing shots of blood. I don't know.

00;37;24;02 - 00;37;24;25

Kevin

Stay here.

00;37;24;25 - 00;37;25;22

Kevin

Doing blood shots.

00;37;26;15 - 00;37;27;21

Phil

It's not like you do.

00;37;28;21 - 00;37;29;17

Kevin

I did not think of.

00;37;29;20 - 00;37;30;28

Phil

I woke up the same thing.

00;37;33;14 - 00;37;40;01

Kevin

Chapter 11. But before we get to chapter 11, we're going to pause and have a word from our sponsors.

00;37;47;22 - 00;37;49;03

Phil

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00;37;51;15 - 00;38;01;13

Phil

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00;38;01;13 - 00;38;02;27

Kevin

And grab the floor.

00;38;06;05 - 00;38;18;22

Kevin

And we're back. Thanks to today's sponsor. Uh, Spaniels. Good blood wine. So good so, so good. What would you pair that with, by the way, Phil?

00;38;19;04 - 00;38;29;28

Phil

I would actually. I find that the the location of the goat in question when you sacrifice its blood is an important distinction. But in general, pepperoni pizza.

00;38;30;13 - 00;38;31;04

Kevin

Oh, OK.

00;38;31;10 - 00;38;43;18

Kevin

Yeah, yeah. Now, if it's, if it's only a it's only a champagne goat blood if the goat is sacrificed in in the champagne region of France.

00;38;43;18 - 00;38;54;17

Phil

Correct. That's right. That's right. Yeah. And, and some people don't realize, but it actually doesn't matter where the goat was born as long as it was sacrificed. God and champagne.

00;38;54;18 - 00;39;02;00

Kevin

Yeah, that's that's good to know. That's, that is the key. So chapter 11 or 11, when we get some.

00;39;02;00 - 00;39;02;22

Phil

Of the good shepherd.

00;39;03;00 - 00;39;06;26

Kevin

It's a good chapter we get some more unhinged ness from Dr. Nick.

00;39;07;22 - 00;39;17;21

Phil

Oh, absolutely we do. He's lucky, just like he he's still just hopping back and forth with that manic energy, isn't he?

00;39;17;21 - 00;39;33;17

Kevin

He is. He is hopping mad. He is. He is. Basically, he has moments of clarity. And then it's just he is on the verge of frenzy.

00;39;33;24 - 00;39;45;25

Phil

Other times I love that he because he's like he starts to realize like, oh, he's I better. Hi, Mike. I actually probably should. Hi. That would be better at that. Is to save them myself.

00;39;45;27 - 00;39;47;02

Kevin

I'll kill them all.

00;39;47;02 - 00;39;52;23

Phil

Just that's how you know you're dealing with a high quality standard or villain.

00;39;52;23 - 00;40;15;05

Kevin

It's just so it's in this chapter. Dr. Nick basically recounts how he killed everybody. Right. Who? The order in which he killed people all that fun stuff. Just. Yeah. And then he's also having trouble remembering all the details because some of the murders happened when he was in just an absolute frenzy.

00;40;15;22 - 00;40;16;03

Kevin

Right.

00;40;16;12 - 00;40;27;28

Kevin

And he doesn't he doesn't actually remember them until he, like, gets back into that mindset where he he he had he basically had a scalpel and was just slitting throats.

00;40;28;13 - 00;40;28;28

Phil

Right?

00;40;29;03 - 00;40;29;21

Kevin

Yeah.

00;40;31;06 - 00;40;33;16

Kevin

And he was just covered in blood at one point.

00;40;33;16 - 00;40;40;03

Phil

It's it's a it's an exposition dump that actually is dumping a bucket full of blood.

00;40;40;03 - 00;40;50;18

Kevin

Like it's the bucket of blood dying it talks about how he once he found Ammon, he, like, basically carved him up. He was the one who put him up on the door with the fishing wire and all that.

00;40;50;19 - 00;40;59;09

Phil

Right yeah. We get the full if you wanted to know how the hell all this shit ended up this way. Oh, believe me, you will find out.

00;40;59;12 - 00;41;13;27

Kevin

You will find out. There's no, like, mystery behind no behind any of it. Like, no, this guy, Doctor Nick, literally put the bodies in the pile in that one room and also strung up the other dude on the door.

00;41;15;11 - 00;41;18;15

Phil

She does everything but give you the time codes. Like, it's not coy.

00;41;18;25 - 00;41;19;23

Kevin

It's pretty.

00;41;19;23 - 00;41;20;11

Phil

Clear.

00;41;20;11 - 00;41;25;00

Kevin

It's it's it's clear and it's brutality.

00;41;25;10 - 00;41;26;01

Phil

Absolutely.

00;41;26;01 - 00;41;28;05

Kevin

There's no, no guessing.

00;41;28;21 - 00;41;29;24

Phil

No, no.

00;41;30;00 - 00;41;31;14

Kevin

This isn't the end of the thing.

00;41;31;23 - 00;41;34;03

Kevin

Um, no, no, no, we don't.

00;41;34;07 - 00;41;36;09

Phil

We're not going to have, like, long discussions, and.

00;41;36;11 - 00;41;42;12

Kevin

We're not going to have long discussions as to whether Keith David is, is the thing or not. Right.

00;41;44;06 - 00;41;45;07

Phil

He's not just know.

00;41;45;15 - 00;41;49;25

Kevin

He's not. He's not. They're both human, but they die. That's, that's.

00;41;49;29 - 00;41;50;27

Phil

That's everyone knows.

00;41;50;27 - 00;42;06;18

Kevin

Spoilers. Everyone knows David Cronenberg's The Thing Masterpiece. That's a deep cut that only works that that you don't you're not going to know that reference unless you listen to it's probably not aliens probably.

00;42;06;18 - 00;42;06;27

Phil

Yeah.

00;42;08;04 - 00;42;11;16

Kevin

They called the thing David Cronenberg David Cronenberg.

00;42;11;21 - 00;42;12;01

Phil

Yeah.

00;42;13;05 - 00;42;14;05

Kevin

You should you should.

00;42;14;10 - 00;42;16;09

Phil

Listen to you should listen. It's probably not.

00;42;16;18 - 00;42;50;01

Kevin

It's it's a great show so they they they moving on. They're doing more tests. They there's this there's there's this test where they have all these colored pieces in front and they have to lay them out in order. And they all have a letter on them. And it's a rainbow. So at first he puts some Roy G biv, but then he, they figure out that it's like, oh, it's it's the months you got to.

00;42;50;05 - 00;42;51;06

Kevin

Yeah. The letter I.

00;42;51;06 - 00;43;10;25

Phil

Liked that one. That was one I would have been, I would have actually probably been chomped on by zombies. Still trying to fucking figure it out. Yeah. So and then John just goes, oh it's the months. So we put them in order and j they're like, 00 I'm tired is thanks John.

00;43;10;27 - 00;43;24;13

Kevin

And then yeah, no, if you were doing it you would be standing there staring at the puzzle and in the distance you would if you would be hearing x going to give it to you right oh.

00;43;25;00 - 00;43;25;13

Kevin

Wonder what.

00;43;25;13 - 00;43;31;04

Phil

That means. The music's distracting, guys. I'm not learning this any faster.

00;43;32;02 - 00;43;34;18

Kevin

Ever seen that mod for Resident Evil to remake?

00;43;35;04 - 00;43;35;11

Kevin

Yeah.

00;43;35;11 - 00;43;40;17

Kevin

Where instead of footsteps. It's, it's, it's, it's it's going to give it to you.

00;43;40;26 - 00;43;58;20

Phil

I frickin loved that one. Like that was that was that was a meme. Some of these. All right, now, look, I'm old and some of these memes, as you have noticed, if you if you follow me and Kevin on Twitter, you will see instances of me literally just popping in to go. I don't understand.

00;43;58;22 - 00;44;00;05

Kevin

I don't know what this means.

00;44;00;14 - 00;44;00;22

Kevin

Yeah.

00;44;02;00 - 00;44;14;00

Phil

And and that was a meme. I could get fully behind all of the rest to be able to remake x tropes in means. I loved that one. Yeah.

00;44;14;17 - 00;44;14;29

Kevin

Yeah.

00;44;15;06 - 00;44;19;09

Phil

Sometimes you kids and your message, I find quite a chuckle.

00;44;19;21 - 00;44;23;08

Kevin

All right. All right. DMX, by the way, was that.

00;44;23;08 - 00;44;24;04

Phil

Last year? Oh, yeah.

00;44;24;04 - 00;44;24;26

Kevin

Two years ago.

00;44;24;28 - 00;44;26;15

Phil

Yeah, a couple of years ago, I think.

00;44;26;15 - 00;44;46;19

Kevin

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they saw the the test and then there's more there's more funny, thirsty, flirty talk where David says we should get moving. See how Steve and Rebecca are making out. And then Jon responds. Interesting way of putting it, David. Nice one.

00;44;47;22 - 00;44;54;26

Phil

And by the way, while all this is happening, Karen is losing it. Like, like, weird. Like she's starting to sweat.

00;44;55;00 - 00;44;57;16

Kevin

Karen is her eyes turned red.

00;44;58;01 - 00;44;58;15

Phil

Right?

00;44;58;15 - 00;45;00;13

Kevin

It's not she's not in good shape.

00;45;00;13 - 00;45;07;03

Phil

And they're asking her like, hey, they they one point say, like, you're doing OK. And she's like a fine head hurts and it just.

00;45;07;17 - 00;45;08;20

Kevin

Heads eyes itchy.

00;45;09;08 - 00;45;21;05

Phil

It's such a great example of like in zombie movies pretty much specifically where it's like like I'm just it's just it's just I'm just holding a rag over my arm for no particular reason.

00;45;21;05 - 00;45;23;16

Kevin

I'm fine. I'm not big. It was there.

00;45;23;16 - 00;45;31;15

Phil

Over there trying to figure out a riddle. I expected one of them, like, Hey, Karen, you're turning into a real zombie over there. Anyway, I think it's the months when you up the.

00;45;31;15 - 00;45;34;15

Kevin

Letters they just.

00;45;34;15 - 00;45;58;02

Phil

Seem really nonplused if if our if our if we were in a team and the biologist had said, you know, there's a really good chance that people, if you're not careful, could catch a horrible disease. Right. And I noticed suddenly out of the clear blue sky, one of our team members sweating and like having headaches.

00;45;58;02 - 00;46;01;02

Kevin

And eyes are red. All that fun stuff.

00;46;01;28 - 00;46;02;20

Phil

I know.

00;46;02;20 - 00;46;06;19

Kevin

That's meanwhile, Rebecca and Steve are having a tender moment.

00;46;07;06 - 00;46;07;27

Kevin

Yes, they are.

00;46;09;16 - 00;46;34;06

Kevin

They're looking up some bullshit about the virus. That's not super important. It's just like, oh, the viruses moves faster, which I think we had already established based on one of the Doctor Knick chapters. But now Rebecca knows that that the, the something about the amplification, which is the speed at which the virus infects somebody, has been increased to a matter of hours instead of days.

00;46;35;15 - 00;46;45;00

Kevin

But then they get startled about it with, with John and everybody coming into the building that they end up holding each other's hands.

00;46;45;01 - 00;46;48;04

Kevin

They hold her, you hold once. It's like a couple.

00;46;48;04 - 00;46;51;02

Phil

Of seals that don't want to float away from each other.

00;46;51;02 - 00;46;51;25

Kevin

Oh.

00;46;52;13 - 00;46;53;24

Kevin

Oh, that's so sweet.

00;46;54;06 - 00;46;55;29

Phil

Uh, anyway, Karen's going to die.

00;46;56;07 - 00;46;56;24

Kevin

Anyway.

00;46;56;24 - 00;46;56;27

Phil

And.

00;46;59;21 - 00;47;12;08

Kevin

They hold hands, and then they're like. They're like, oh, by the way, John says, get your clothes on, kids. You've got company, John. You know, it can't he can't go more than a couple pages without saying something like that.

00;47;12;13 - 00;47;13;07

Phil

Oh, John.

00;47;13;13 - 00;47;16;08

Kevin

Oh, John. He consistent. At least he's a consistent is consistent.

00;47;16;08 - 00;47;17;23

Phil

That is true. That's just who he is.

00;47;17;27 - 00;47;33;09

Kevin

We're talking before the show about consistent characterization and how in comic books, that tends to be a problem because, you know, characters aren't handled by different writers. But John is is a consistent character in that. Pretty consistent. Yeah. Sexually harasses.

00;47;33;10 - 00;47;37;23

Phil

Constantly. Consistently awful, consistently awful. It's the worst.

00;47;38;00 - 00;47;38;06

Kevin

Yeah.

00;47;39;11 - 00;47;40;06

Kevin

He's not great.

00;47;40;09 - 00;47;45;02

Phil

Um, he's the John Rovio of. Of Resident Evil.

00;47;45;06 - 00;47;45;10

Kevin

Yeah.

00;47;47;19 - 00;47;50;07

Kevin

Just the worst.

00;47;50;11 - 00;48;16;29

Kevin

The worst. Just the worst. My favorite bit is when Ben Schwartz basically sings that into Adam Scott's ear and then just keeps leaning on him until Adam Scott fell over yeah. That is that is my favorite, favorite Jean-Ralphio moments in Parks and Rec. He just keeps pushing Adam Scott over.

00;48;17;17 - 00;48;42;00

Phil

I think my favorite Jean-Ralphio bit, this is this is what in the show will be known as the Jean-Ralphio Minute. Yeah, I think it was actually the the COVID special. They did they did all the they put together it was a costume come from their homes, right? Yeah. And and Charlotte feels like doing a commercial for a friend.

00;48;42;08 - 00;48;50;13

Phil

It just it just needs it. It just adds to them going, I'm so lonely. And that is something that me and my fiance, they still.

00;48;50;13 - 00;48;52;08

Kevin

Quote to each other all the time.

00;48;52;23 - 00;49;03;17

Kevin

So only it's it's amazing that only a few years later, after Parks and Rec ended, that Ben Schwartz would be would be Sonic the Hedgehog.

00;49;03;26 - 00;49;25;26

Phil

Would be Sonic the Hedgehog. And and the actress who played Mona Lisa would be a shell with an eye I'd have to explain to me. I remember one of these from Parks. Right. But that's her as the as a daughter, the name of that anthropomorphic shell is that did you see are you know what I'm talking about?

00;49;25;26 - 00;49;27;03

Kevin

No, I have no idea what you're talking.

00;49;27;03 - 00;49;30;15

Phil

Hold on. Hold on. It's not Sheldon. It's not so obvious.

00;49;31;22 - 00;49;34;02

Kevin

But I mean, Jenny Slate is the actresses.

00;49;34;08 - 00;49;36;25

Kevin

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll. Thank you. Yeah, thank you.

00;49;38;15 - 00;50;11;14

Phil

It's it's Marcel the shell. Oh, and they were these YouTube videos all right, so. All right, if you guys don't know what I'm talking about, it was these they were these YouTube videos. It's this little talking show with shoes, and it's really cute. And it's really and it's actually really very funny. And it's just like people it's like a talking head style documentary kind of thing, but you're just talking to this tiny talking shell, and they made a movie of it, and we went to see everything everywhere all at once, which was great, by the way.

00;50;11;14 - 00;50;36;14

Phil

And and there was a trailer for the movie of this. And I got to tell you, I don't trust in a world where I was like choked up by the end of a trailer for a goddamn talking shell. I I don't I don't know if they're getting better at being emotionally manipulative in trailers or if I'm losing my goddamn mind like.

00;50;37;02 - 00;50;49;21

Kevin

Well, you're really bad, Phil, you're turning 40 this year. And I think I think there's going to be a lot of degradation. There's going to be a lot of no, I think the wistfulness is really going to start setting in.

00;50;50;02 - 00;50;58;22

Phil

Yeah, I'm absolutely there. I am so soft these days. It doesn't it takes a little.

00;50;58;22 - 00;51;00;11

Kevin

It doesn't take much to make me cry.

00;51;00;11 - 00;51;08;19

Phil

It takes so little I don't have a child. And we all watch Tick talks and there will be a little kid just saying something cute. They'll be like.

00;51;09;00 - 00;51;10;26

Kevin

Oh, it's so sweet.

00;51;11;20 - 00;51;12;25

Phil

It just it's, it's.

00;51;14;28 - 00;51;15;15

Kevin

Everything's.

00;51;15;15 - 00;51;16;01

Phil

Going to hell.

00;51;16;08 - 00;51;37;09

Kevin

Speaking of of of videos, there was a guy who was on Reddit today. This is just your inbetween chapter update on shit we've seen. OK, there's a guy on Reddit who posted a video it he pulled over because there was a kitten like in the middle of the road, and he was like, oh, I.

00;51;37;09 - 00;51;38;10

Phil

Think I know what you're talking about.

00;51;38;11 - 00;52;04;16

Kevin

And he was like, oh. He's like, oh, man, you can't be out here. You're going to get hurt. He goes and he gets the kitten. And then he, like, looks up and from the tall grass, just this this flock of kittens just emerges and surrounds him. And basically, they're all, like, giving him, like, the, the the Puss in Boots like, kitten eyes and, like, begging, begging to be picked up by him.

00;52;04;16 - 00;52;06;17

Kevin

And he's like, well, I can't take you.

00;52;06;17 - 00;52;08;04

Kevin

Oh, yeah.

00;52;08;28 - 00;52;19;05

Phil

And then the video cuts to him literally in his car with, like, 15 kittens. I'm not fucking with you. It's like at least a dozen kittens.

00;52;19;24 - 00;52;21;23

Kevin

Look, they tricked.

00;52;21;23 - 00;52;23;08

Phil

Him. They fucking tricked him.

00;52;23;09 - 00;52;29;17

Kevin

They sent it. They sent one out, and the guy got his attention, and then the rest bombarded it.

00;52;29;24 - 00;52;39;10

Phil

It was it was cute right up until the moment that it actually felt foreboding. I kind of expected one of them to have a sock full of quarters and just whack him on the back of the head like in his wallet.

00;52;39;11 - 00;52;43;01

Kevin

And just every time he looked up, there's more kittens coming out of the grass.

00;52;43;12 - 00;52;44;03

Phil

Tequilas.

00;52;44;27 - 00;52;45;09

Kevin

Yeah.

00;52;45;14 - 00;52;47;24

Phil

Yeah. That was the news of this morning in this house.

00;52;47;24 - 00;52;51;16

Kevin

So that was like, did you see the kitten video? And I was.

00;52;51;20 - 00;52;51;26

Kevin

Like.

00;52;54;05 - 00;52;55;20

Phil

It was. Yeah, yeah.

00;52;55;28 - 00;52;58;25

Kevin

Oh, God. Oh, God. Hmm.

00;52;59;08 - 00;53;00;06

Kevin

Chapter 12.

00;53;01;17 - 00;53;01;25

Kevin

Well.

00;53;03;14 - 00;53;09;19

Kevin

Zombie kittens, we start with Rebecca. Could still feel the lingering warmth of Steve's hand in hers.

00;53;10;08 - 00;53;10;29

Phil

Oh, my.

00;53;11;08 - 00;53;13;11

Kevin

God. Steve is going to die, isn't he?

00;53;14;00 - 00;53;14;22

Phil

He has to.

00;53;14;22 - 00;53;16;23

Kevin

Write. Yeah, he has to. This is.

00;53;17;00 - 00;53;18;14

Phil

We can't keep him alive.

00;53;18;15 - 00;53;33;18

Kevin

We can't keep him alive. This is too much of a thing for Rebecca. No, she's got to be a little bit more damaged if she's going to be if she's going to continue on. And the resident evil verse. You can't have to break her. You can't. You can't get good things. You have to.

00;53;33;25 - 00;53;34;20

Phil

Keep at.

00;53;35;21 - 00;53;56;12

Kevin

The height of your life in terms of mental health was before Resident Evil before the outbreak started. And it's just there. Have you seen Chris in Resident Evil eight? He is just a he's just a jackass in a trenchcoat walking around with a dumb haircut.

00;53;56;28 - 00;54;11;22

Phil

Yeah, he will. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. He is completely transformed No, Rebecca, no, Steve. There's no way Steve surviving. And the only the only way this ends is if he dies, preferably her killing him to save.

00;54;11;22 - 00;54;13;24

Kevin

Him in the face. She's going to have to shoot in the.

00;54;13;24 - 00;54;15;07

Phil

Face, right in the face.

00;54;15;07 - 00;54;40;20

Kevin

In the face. And it's going to be, like, a moment ago. Um, well, you know, I'll get to I'll get to it later. I'll get to. I'll get to what I think it should be like later when we get to our what, our playing segment. Um, Uh, so, yeah, basically, they do a quick recap as to what the F is going on and that David's like can you Rebecca, you're, you're a medic.

00;54;40;20 - 00;54;43;27

Kevin

Can you take a look at what what's going on with Karen's face?

00;54;47;20 - 00;54;55;26

Phil

Sure, sure. And it's like, it's like David Cronenberg's The Thing where the face opens up and it chops her skull.

00;54;56;05 - 00;54;56;15

Kevin

It's just.

00;54;56;15 - 00;54;57;27

Kevin

David Cronenberg's The Thing.

00;54;57;27 - 00;54;58;04

Kevin

From.

00;55;01;10 - 00;55;04;07

Phil

David Cronenberg's masterpiece. The Thing.

00;55;04;15 - 00;55;04;29

Kevin

Yeah.

00;55;05;19 - 00;55;09;21

Kevin

Yeah. Just like, you know, John Carpenter's Eraserhead.

00;55;10;13 - 00;55;12;16

Phil

Or Francis Ford Coppola is The Godfather.

00;55;14;18 - 00;55;16;05

Kevin

That. That one's actually right, though.

00;55;16;06 - 00;55;16;24

Phil

Yeah, I know.

00;55;21;17 - 00;55;23;10

Phil

I went to film school. I didn't attend.

00;55;26;28 - 00;55;31;24

Kevin

Like. Like like George Lucas's Rumble Fish. Right.

00;55;34;01 - 00;55;34;24

Kevin

Yeah, that's a French.

00;55;34;25 - 00;55;36;09

Phil

Even Spielberg's Jaws.

00;55;36;27 - 00;55;42;04

Kevin

Yeah, right. Right, guys. Black eye is like a doll's eyes.

00;55;42;13 - 00;55;43;07

Phil

Like it does.

00;55;43;17 - 00;55;43;27

Kevin

Yes.

00;55;49;14 - 00;55;51;24

Kevin

Do you want your manhood in the water?

00;55;52;29 - 00;55;53;09

Kevin

You just.

00;55;53;09 - 00;55;56;09

Phil

Do it. A jaws podcast where.

00;55;56;09 - 00;56;02;09

Kevin

We're going to have about we're going to have an epic the bonus episode this year where we just have a bunch of people on doing a quint off.

00;56;02;26 - 00;56;15;02

Phil

Yeah. Oh, my God. Let's get every other YouTuber and podcaster we know. Let's take the Indianapolis speech. Cut it up into pieces and everyone gets to do.

00;56;15;04 - 00;56;18;07

Kevin

Everyone gets a piece of a piece of the Indianapolis speech.

00;56;18;07 - 00;56;27;19

Phil

Yeah, we do. We do. The USA. USA CSA says Indianapolis Supercut Oh, that's genius. No one will care. It's great.

00;56;27;19 - 00;56;28;22

Kevin

Great. Write that down.

00;56;29;13 - 00;56;32;24

Phil

I will. OK, so anyway.

00;56;33;07 - 00;56;44;01

Kevin

DiNapoli says we delivered a bumpy God, I love that scene.

00;56;45;02 - 00;56;45;12

Kevin

Too.

00;56;47;19 - 00;56;54;11

Kevin

Um, anyway, Karen's like, Yeah, I'm fine. It's just a headache. And Rebecca's like, OK. Uh.

00;56;55;08 - 00;56;59;17

Phil

Yeah, she kind of. Yeah, she just a little.

00;57;00;08 - 00;57;00;27

Kevin

A little.

00;57;01;02 - 00;57;21;10

Kevin

A little, too. So basically, she's in the middle of of in inspecting Karen, and it's like when they accidentally trigger the test, and there is like, an ominous countdown clock associated with that. So they're like, I guess we have to solve it pretty fast.

00;57;21;21 - 00;57;23;12

Phil

And, yeah, we were working on this. Like.

00;57;23;23 - 00;57;36;10

Kevin

Can you guess listeners at home what the riddle is, is and it may have been just been featured, uh, a year or two before in a blockbuster movie.

00;57;36;22 - 00;57;37;00

Phil

Right.

00;57;37;07 - 00;57;40;04

Kevin

Um, the riddle is the scene. Ives riddle.

00;57;41;25 - 00;57;42;10

Kevin

A riddle.

00;57;42;10 - 00;57;45;05

Phil

That I think we've referenced more than once on this, but.

00;57;45;05 - 00;58;10;21

Kevin

I think we've actually reference St Ives several times. Yeah. For those who don't recall what it is Mm hmm. As I was going to St Ives, I met a man with seven wives. The seven wives had seven sacks Seven sacks held seven cats. Hold on. Let me switch over to the seven cats. Said seven kittens, sex and wives.

00;58;10;21 - 00;58;14;13

Kevin

How many were going to say knives? I did slipping a little Jeremy Irons at the end there.

00;58;15;01 - 00;58;15;22

Phil

Yeah, that's good.

00;58;15;29 - 00;58;27;03

Kevin

So basically, they're arguing with each other that there's a there's a hint from Trent that says, don't count. And they finally realize that it's.

00;58;27;14 - 00;58;29;22

Phil

It's 777.

00;58;29;29 - 00;58;34;10

Kevin

Yes. Yes, it's, that's the answer. That's how many were going to say knives. Right.

00;58;35;29 - 00;58;38;17

Phil

Kind of an anticlimactic riddle, but at least they got it right.

00;58;39;09 - 00;59;03;29

Kevin

So they're they're actually trying to do the math. And then and then Rebecca says it's one only one person is going to say knives, much like in Die Hard with a vengeance when that's one of the the the riddles. And then, uh, what I'm trying to remember that scene. Oh that he he fucks with them in that scene is is like too late.

00;59;04;13 - 00;59;07;26

Kevin

And then there is actually no bomb in the trash can or something like.

00;59;08;13 - 00;59;08;26

Kevin

Yeah.

00;59;09;29 - 00;59;11;12

Phil

What a weird movie.

00;59;11;18 - 00;59;12;19

Kevin

It's such a weird movie.

00;59;12;19 - 00;59;15;01

Kevin

But I kind of like it. I liked it.

00;59;15;01 - 00;59;17;16

Phil

Too. I haven't seen it in forever, though I may admit.

00;59;17;16 - 00;59;23;10

Kevin

It's really held on the charisma of Jeremy Irons and Samuel Jackson.

00;59;23;19 - 00;59;24;14

Phil

Absolutely.

00;59;24;14 - 00;59;29;07

Kevin

It's it's it's really held together on that and yours.

00;59;29;07 - 00;59;33;29

Phil

I'm concerned Jeremy Irons and Alan Rickman are related thanks to that franchise.

00;59;35;07 - 00;59;42;00

Kevin

Yeah, they are. Rest. Rest in peace. Alan Rickman. Oh, yeah. God, we. We miss you, Alan.

00;59;42;15 - 00;59;43;10

Kevin

I miss him.

00;59;43;23 - 01;00;13;28

Kevin

We miss him so much. Yeah. So they they solve the puzzle, and now Rebecca can turn her attention back to Karen. She grabs a torch which I found it interesting that they that Perry refers to flashlights as torches, which is a which is a British thing. It's a way to call your flashlight a torch, which I just thought that was.

01;00;14;04 - 01;00;15;06

Kevin

I just picked up on that.

01;00;16;08 - 01;00;18;01

Phil

It's an interesting detail. Yeah.

01;00;18;22 - 01;00;47;05

Kevin

So they. So she's finished. She's still examining Karen, and then they put it together that Karen accidentally touched the dried blood in the room. Room 101, the room of rooms. And then I guess, rubbed her eye or something like that. And that's why her eye is getting more and more infected. So Karen is infected with the zombie virus.

01;00;47;11 - 01;00;50;06

Kevin

Maybe they're actually not even.

01;00;50;07 - 01;00;50;24

Kevin

Like.

01;00;51;20 - 01;00;56;28

Kevin

They're there. It's funny is like there's a chance that she's not, but let's assume that she is.

01;00;57;10 - 01;00;57;23

Phil

Right.

01;00;57;23 - 01;00;58;07

Kevin

Yeah.

01;01;00;19 - 01;01;24;01

Kevin

Um, and they figure out, Rebecca realizes that if they were working with this virus on site, they probably have an antivirus or a vaccine or something on site as well, because that would be the only, you know. Correct. Way to do it. You can't you shouldn't be working with a virus that you didn't have a cure for. Right.

01;01;24;01 - 01;01;36;03

Phil

Which is which is it? Yeah, which is a terrific idea. If you're in a medical area that is being run properly and not full of dead people. Yeah. And zombies with machine guns.

01;01;36;04 - 01;01;45;28

Kevin

So and and the only man left on the island or in the cove, rather, is has fond memories of slitting everybody's throat with a scalpel.

01;01;46;23 - 01;01;53;18

Phil

Right. Right. In that situation. I wouldn't hold out hope, but. But sure, give it to him. Let them let them hold out.

01;01;54;02 - 01;02;13;13

Kevin

So they're decided. They're like, we're going to go OK. Fuck it. We're going to try to find we're going to get into the main lab and we're going to find the cure. And, uh, not that cure. No, unfortunately, unfortunately.

01;02;13;22 - 01;02;17;20

Kevin

They in.

01;02;17;20 - 01;02;18;06

Kevin

The distance.

01;02;18;07 - 01;02;20;22

Kevin

They say here.

01;02;21;07 - 01;02;23;01

Kevin

Friday, I'm in.

01;02;25;05 - 01;02;27;12

Kevin

Saturday night.

01;02;36;27 - 01;02;39;18

Phil

That would be it. That would be a twist. That would be worth it to go.

01;02;40;24 - 01;02;45;28

Kevin

It's like, oh, there's no cure. It's just the British brand, the cure the cure.

01;02;46;02 - 01;02;48;20

Phil

Oh, no. Carrot. Oh, well, carrots instead.

01;02;48;26 - 01;02;50;29

Kevin

Right. Well, that's great.

01;02;51;07 - 01;02;54;08

Kevin

We can dance along very fine.

01;02;55;11 - 01;02;56;09

Phil

She would have wanted us.

01;02;56;11 - 01;03;01;20

Kevin

She would have wanted us to um.

01;03;02;06 - 01;03;11;01

Kevin

Uh, do they also do what I'm trying to think of their other song? Did they just do everybody wants to rule the world? Is that the.

01;03;11;02 - 01;03;11;25

Phil

No, that's tears for.

01;03;11;25 - 01;03;13;03

Kevin

Fears as tears for fears.

01;03;13;03 - 01;03;13;26

Phil

OK, yeah.

01;03;14;14 - 01;03;16;22

Kevin

Yeah, it's that confused my eighties.

01;03;17;07 - 01;03;19;15

Kevin

Uh, guess.

01;03;19;15 - 01;03;21;13

Kevin

New Wave. Yeah, right.

01;03;21;16 - 01;03;24;04

Phil

Yeah. I mean, it's around the same time period, so.

01;03;24;26 - 01;03;34;12

Kevin

Yeah, so we have we have a scene basically the entire thing is John losing his absolute shit.

01;03;34;27 - 01;03;36;14

Phil

Yes, John is.

01;03;37;01 - 01;03;39;14

Kevin

He is not taking this this Karen news. Well.

01;03;39;22 - 01;03;53;23

Phil

No, and I have I've got to ask you this now, John. His whole thing is that like, they've been working together and he's they're close friends and he sees her as his responsibility and he's blaming himself that he should have been there to protect her and everything.

01;03;53;23 - 01;03;59;12

Kevin

Like, even though he was there, he was standing next to her, he kind of said, don't touch the blood. But he did.

01;03;59;12 - 01;04;13;09

Phil

Right. But he didn't. And that's all very well and good. Right. I can't help but think that he is actually upset that he'd been doing all of the inappropriate jokes and now she's dying.

01;04;13;23 - 01;04;16;08

Kevin

And know she's dying, but they're never going to pay off.

01;04;16;19 - 01;04;25;03

Phil

Right? Yeah, right. Exactly. She's not going to fully enjoy them because she's distracted by her dying. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's really what we're getting at here. And he.

01;04;25;03 - 01;04;26;21

Kevin

Saved a joke for her, and.

01;04;26;21 - 01;05;00;15

Phil

That's easy. And now, I mean, he's in he's he is in an impossible situation because he has to decide, do I just go ahead and say it because she's going to die. So she needs to hear it, whether it's the optimal time or not, or do I hold out hope, the impossible dream that we'll have a moment, possibly in her final breath that I can I'll be there with nothing but a smile on and she smiles and dies that's what he's hoping for.

01;05;00;16 - 01;05;03;03

Kevin

That's what he's hoping. That's actually his entire character arc.

01;05;03;20 - 01;05;06;00

Phil

That's that's the whole thing, huh? It is. Yeah.

01;05;06;08 - 01;05;25;21

Kevin

Yeah. He is going to strip naked right before she dies, right? Says I'm wearing nothing but my smile right. He smiles at her and she smiles back, and then she tries to bite his dick off right succeeds.

01;05;26;13 - 01;05;29;05

Phil

The n a the black.

01;05;29;24 - 01;05;31;16

Kevin

He bleeds out turns into a zombie.

01;05;32;04 - 01;05;37;17

Phil

Yep. Shannon cannot Resident Evil cannon. Yeah. Just like that.

01;05;37;25 - 01;05;51;05

Kevin

Yeah, just like that. Anyway, yeah, he he loses his shit on a tri squad. He he blasts them. To hell with his Beretta. He basically runs at them while they're firing at him.

01;05;52;17 - 01;05;53;00

Kevin

Yeah.

01;05;55;16 - 01;05;58;17

Phil

He has an eighties macho action movie guy moment.

01;05;58;24 - 01;05;59;07

Kevin

Yeah.

01;06;00;03 - 01;06;09;07

Phil

Basically, the he's basically the the the one guy in Predator after just the body Ventura gets killed and he just loses.

01;06;09;09 - 01;06;13;15

Kevin

Oh, yeah. Oh, what's his name? Bill Duke.

01;06;14;17 - 01;06;19;02

Phil

Is it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think so. Is it the guy who he looks like he needs to sleep like, a lot?

01;06;20;07 - 01;06;21;08

Kevin

Is that his name?

01;06;21;25 - 01;06;22;21

Phil

Yeah, Bill Duke.

01;06;22;21 - 01;06;28;17

Kevin

Bill Duke pulled that one out of the. Yeah, he Bill Duke always looks like he needs a nap.

01;06;29;07 - 01;06;31;13

Phil

He does. But God damn, I love that, man.

01;06;31;14 - 01;06;39;28

Kevin

I love that man. He is. When I see him in a movie, I'm like, he's going to he's going to be he's going to be a awesome character.

01;06;40;19 - 01;06;42;29

Phil

He's going to be weird. And it's going to be he's.

01;06;42;29 - 01;06;46;19

Kevin

Going to be weird. A little off putting. He is six foot four.

01;06;47;07 - 01;06;59;14

Phil

That is crazy. And that tells you something about the other cast. Of Predator that he was like, here's here's this dude who six foot four and you don't even notice. You don't.

01;06;59;14 - 01;07;03;13

Kevin

Notice. You think he's kind of like one on the smaller side. And he is right.

01;07;04;25 - 01;07;07;06

Phil

He is absolutely 100% not.

01;07;10;07 - 01;07;10;19

Kevin

Oh.

01;07;10;19 - 01;07;12;24

Kevin

God. Predator. That was a good movie.

01;07;13;20 - 01;07;14;14

Phil

I love that movie.

01;07;14;14 - 01;07;27;21

Kevin

I love that movie. Um, so yeah, Karen call him some down after he shoots the shit out of he murders the shit out of some sub tries.

01;07;27;24 - 01;07;29;15

Kevin

He does he does.

01;07;30;16 - 01;07;34;04

Phil

He murders the shit out of them. Runs out of bullets.

01;07;34;05 - 01;07;50;07

Kevin

Runs out of bullets. That was the last try squad by their account, though. Yeah, they did. They found some documentation. Thank you. That's, that's, that's good. That's the end of that. And with that, we, uh, we finish with our segment tonight.

01;07;50;18 - 01;07;51;10

Kevin

Uh, yeah.

01;07;51;15 - 01;07;57;07

Kevin

As we reach chapter 13 and we will be finishing up this book next time.

01;07;58;06 - 01;07;58;21

Phil

Not much.

01;07;58;21 - 01;08;27;09

Kevin

Left. Not much left at all. We only have like 50 pages left. Yeah, yeah. So there we go. Yeah. Resident Evil, Caliban Cove speaking of Predator. Before we get to what we're playing, have you seen the trailer for Prey yet? No. So basically it's, it's set 300 years in the past and it's a, it's a Comanche woman who.

01;08;27;09 - 01;08;29;09

Phil

Oh, I've heard about this. OK, is.

01;08;29;13 - 01;08;32;00

Kevin

Fighting off the fighting off the predator.

01;08;33;15 - 01;08;34;06

Phil

I have her a.

01;08;34;06 - 01;08;38;02

Kevin

New trailer's just, just dropped a couple of days ago for prey.

01;08;38;21 - 01;08;40;04

Phil

I want it to be good.

01;08;40;04 - 01;08;41;25

Kevin

I really hope it's good. Yeah.

01;08;42;26 - 01;09;08;28

Phil

Because there's so much you could do with that. Oh, man. I need that to be good life. Yeah. And both the predator and the alien sighs every now and then, they take it back in time. Yeah, and. And it works. There was a there was a one shot of, like, a medieval night. Taking out a xeno morph at one point.

01;09;08;29 - 01;09;09;28

Kevin

Oh, that's awesome.

01;09;10;20 - 01;09;20;03

Phil

There's there's all kinds of fun shit you can do with it if you don't need to put it in the far, far distant future. Right. Or the or the sweaty streets of Los Angeles.

01;09;21;01 - 01;09;22;14

Kevin

Very sweaty streets.

01;09;22;26 - 01;09;25;04

Kevin

But super sweaty Gary Busey.

01;09;25;12 - 01;09;27;02

Kevin

And being super sweaty.

01;09;27;24 - 01;09;28;04

Kevin

Yeah.

01;09;28;19 - 01;09;30;27

Phil

I need this to be good. Please feel good.

01;09;31;26 - 01;09;34;29

Kevin

Yeah, I am. I'm really looking forward to it. I hope it's good.

01;09;34;29 - 01;09;35;08

Phil

Yeah.

01;09;36;23 - 01;09;42;19

Kevin

So now we move on to our award winning segment. Hmm. What do you play? And I.

01;09;43;23 - 01;09;44;08

Phil

Love it.

01;09;45;14 - 01;09;46;28

Kevin

So what are you playing?

01;09;47;25 - 01;10;14;11

Phil

Well, uh, for a minute there I was I had actually wrapped up all of the achievements on vampire survivors. I had gotten all 105 achievements, and I was feeling particularly hollow inside until you pointed out to me about an hour and a half ago that the update for it just came out, just came out. I have nine more to.

01;10;14;11 - 01;10;19;02

Kevin

Learn, nine more achievements to, to fight through right now. So, so.

01;10;19;03 - 01;10;32;12

Phil

That's going to be happening. But other than that, I actually played a couple of of interesting indie games. Oh, really? Yeah. I played one called The Horror of Salazar House.

01;10;32;28 - 01;10;37;01

Kevin

OK, I have heard of it. I don't.

01;10;37;01 - 01;10;37;16

Phil

Yeah.

01;10;37;29 - 01;10;41;09

Kevin

I don't think I remember it, but I know, I know of it.

01;10;42;03 - 01;10;51;05

Phil

Yeah, it's you you'd like it. It's a point and click horror adventure sort of title. Very inspired by faith.

01;10;51;18 - 01;11;08;15

Kevin

OK, yes. Yes. I have seen I've seen these graphics. You know what? I've seen it because our dwarf who developed faith. Yeah. I think tweeted out a development photos of this as it was being made.

01;11;09;08 - 01;11;34;08

Phil

OK, yeah. It, it's, it's yeah, it's, it's a very similar style to that, at least visually gameplay wise. It's like it's kind of a old fashioned dungeon crawly looking adventure point and click kind of game where you're in this haunted house and you've got to solve some puzzle spree short took like an hour or so to be. It's got like eight endings.

01;11;34;08 - 01;11;55;28

Phil

I think I have four or five of them, but you've got these puzzles to do and you it's got some of that alien isolation style stuff where you start to get haunted by this ghost and you have to keep track of where where it is it's and chests and stuff like that so you can hide from it got a little bit of that rotoscoping sort of thing.

01;11;55;28 - 01;12;45;08

Phil

Had some, it had some really good moments, had had some decent scares, some, some really interesting design. The puzzles didn't always make a lot of sense. Sure. They they were not flawless, let's say and I and I actually what's funny is the how you put it, the video style art like the motion stuff was really cool and very low quality pixilated and really well done but the still stuff has kind of this weirdly manga like like ninth grader doing manga and their notebook kind of right that I'm not as big of a fan of.

01;12;46;05 - 01;13;01;11

Phil

But overall, I think it's one of those things that I forget how much it is. Yeah. It's not expensive, though, but if you liked Faith and you're looking for more of that sort of style and it's worth a look I think the yeah.

01;13;01;12 - 01;13;31;12

Kevin

So that the publisher is, is puppet combo. So for anyone who's like a fan of horror, or games, puppet combo is one of those companies that's kind of just been around. They do a lot of old style graphics in their games. So they've, they've been mostly a developer for most of their existence. But recently the last couple of years, they've been getting into publishing games as well.

01;13;31;12 - 01;13;40;01

Kevin

And yeah, the horror of Sells Our House is one of the, one of the games that they published under their label Torture Star Video.

01;13;41;13 - 01;13;43;00

Kevin

Yeah, yeah.

01;13;44;06 - 01;13;45;21

Phil

It's not mincing words.

01;13;45;29 - 01;13;46;11

Kevin

No.

01;13;46;25 - 01;13;47;21

Kevin

It's a great name.

01;13;48;18 - 01;14;17;14

Phil

Oh, I love it. I absolutely love it. So that was worth a look. And I actually play I'd a it's basically the demo of it's like the Prolog of an upcoming game called Rendezvous Shadows of the Past. OK, which is another point in click adventure title has I think the best thing I can say for that one. It's, it's, it's really interesting because it's cyberpunk sort of game, future neon lights, all that stuff.

01;14;17;14 - 01;14;46;06

Phil

It's set in Indonesia and the developer is from Indonesia. Interesting yeah. Yeah. Really, really interesting right off the bat. And the art style I think is the best thing about it. Right? It's, it's also old fashioned pixel based kind of art, but it's gorgeous. The lighting is gorgeous. A lot of the choices they made with the designs for the endgame stuff, again, I'm not as big on they'll do some still images here and there.

01;14;46;06 - 01;15;06;29

Phil

And they also had kind of a weirdly amateurish anime kind of thing. And you're just and I also don't care for that. It's like if you if your game is pixelated like that, why not just stick with that? Yeah, but that's that's just a personal thing. Yeah. But but unfortunately, that was like the most I could really recommend it for.

01;15;06;29 - 01;15;29;26

Phil

It's, it's there. The designers are very talented visual artists, and I think that's great. The but again, the puzzles are pretty random. The it needs better localization. The you know, it's not your first language, frankly. How well am I going to get by in your language? Not good at all. No, but it might be worth it to for them to look into.

01;15;29;26 - 01;15;45;05

Phil

Yeah. Better localization with the dialog and that kind of thing. Right. The audio is kind of out of sync. But but in the and it's kind of combat system. It's just you think you're just playing like a point and click adventure.

01;15;45;05 - 01;15;55;09

Kevin

Game like a lot of the other horror games or whatever, you know, or adventure games that have come out recently it's like, no, there's no combat, you know.

01;15;55;11 - 01;15;56;08

Kevin

Right. Yeah.

01;15;56;17 - 01;16;15;16

Phil

But then you've got of and it would be fine, you know, looks like we got a combat system, whatever but the combat system kind of sucks. It's that it's like you really should don't bother, don't bother. But put your time bring something else off track that right. It's right. But I think, you know, again, this is the Prolog.

01;16;15;16 - 01;16;36;10

Phil

They're releasing the full game. I don't think even this year, I don't know. But I think with some work, you know, and if they're listening to people because it's a free download, you can get it on steam. Sure. I give the impression they're listening to people and there's a there is it's a superficial take on it, but it's gorgeous.

01;16;36;19 - 01;16;49;11

Phil

And I just feel like if they could, they had a little more work put into the non-visual elements of it. They've got something there, right? They just it just needs some polish. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So yeah, that's that's me. What are you playing.

01;16;50;17 - 01;16;54;15

Kevin

I am playing. I started playing Sniper Elite Five.

01;16;54;28 - 01;16;56;08

Phil

Oh, OK.

01;16;56;08 - 01;17;06;07

Kevin

Because I forget who was was tweeting about it, but I was like, yeah, you know, I'll give it a I'll give it a shot. And it is so much fun.

01;17;07;02 - 01;17;08;06

Kevin

Yeah. OK.

01;17;09;05 - 01;17;32;20

Kevin

And I never get tired. So basically the rundown is sniper late five is I assume it's a continuing story from the previous ones. I don't really know. That much about it, but in Sniper Lead five, you're playing a sniper who is dropped off behind enemy lines and you're literally just there to kind of soften things up in preparation for D-Day.

01;17;32;29 - 01;17;59;20

Kevin

Like you're you're just you're just doing some shit to make things a little bit easier for for the allies and the crew. The fun thing about it is it's kind of like recent Mortal Kombat games where are you? It does. The x ray. Yeah. It like Unreasoned moral combat games. There will be some some combos where you'll see somebody like Breakout and they're they're ribs or something like that.

01;18;00;03 - 01;18;27;18

Kevin

So if you get a you're playing as a sniper, and if you get a good shot, it will cut to a cinematic camera and I'll follow the bullet flying through the air. And then as the bullets approaching the person, it'll go into an x ray mode and it'll show the bullet hitting them. And then like the bones breaking away and like the chunks in the viscera as like.

01;18;27;22 - 01;18;53;13

Kevin

Yeah, and it's like, it's really cool. But at the same time, it also is like, oh, wow. Guns are terrifying instruments. Of destruction. They like, I shot a guy in the mouth and it was like it was like it just went like this. And basically, like, all of his teeth just like and jaw just, like, ripped away. And I was like, that is the worst thing I've ever done in a video game.

01;18;54;17 - 01;19;02;15

Phil

It's, it's yeah. It kind of does it almost does the opposite of what they're attending. Yeah. In a way, it's like, oh, take a.

01;19;02;15 - 01;19;26;09

Kevin

Break. But yeah, it's really it is a lot of fun, though. Playing as, as this sniper dude. And the the name of the game is not direct confrontation. It's it's all, you know, you know, like setting a truck to malfunction or something like that, running away, getting on your perch and picking guys off as they investigate stuff like that.

01;19;26;09 - 01;19;37;21

Kevin

Right. So it's it's a lot of fun. So I've been, I've been playing Sniper Lead and sweet, you know, still playing vampire survivors, still trying to catch up to you on on that.

01;19;38;28 - 01;19;40;02

Phil

Something that what.

01;19;40;20 - 01;20;05;29

Kevin

I am I have 101 out of 114 achievements OK I'm OK and I actually got some of the new ones the new achievements that just dropped today this is is what I got so and I say we say today that this is a couple it was like a couple of weeks ago you're actually here as far.

01;20;05;29 - 01;20;07;26

Phil

As you're concerned this is a couple of weeks.

01;20;07;26 - 01;20;08;11

Kevin

Ago.

01;20;10;24 - 01;20;18;24

Kevin

Yeah. And up next on my list of things that I want to play is card shark, which I saw that today.

01;20;18;25 - 01;20;19;22

Phil

New and interesting.

01;20;19;22 - 01;20;47;23

Kevin

Yeah. It's a new game from new aerial. They their previous game was reins, which was oh, OK. Which was basically it was like a little kingdom management simulator where you were presented with you were just presented with a card and you chose one of one of two options on how to handle a problem. And you just tried to see how long you could, you could live.

01;20;47;23 - 01;21;06;25

Kevin

And then but then there was also hidden like story threads that you had to like engage in if you figured out like, oh, there's like an Easter egg and this so rains is a really cool game. I want to check out card shark which is a card game that is literally about cheating you. The goal is to cheat.

01;21;07;27 - 01;21;21;14

Kevin

Oh, that's cool. So you you basically you're playing like poker or something like that and you just have to figure out the best way to like there's ways to like from what I understand, there's ways to have like an eight literal ace up your sleeve.

01;21;22;11 - 01;21;22;29

Kevin

So that's.

01;21;23;14 - 01;21;24;06

Phil

OK.

01;21;24;07 - 01;21;28;11

Kevin

There's ways to like set up mirrors so you can see the, the opponent's hand.

01;21;28;16 - 01;21;30;16

Kevin

Like that's that looks.

01;21;31;09 - 01;21;33;28

Phil

I took a look at that and it looked really interesting.

01;21;33;28 - 01;21;38;17

Kevin

And the goal yeah, it's not about playing fair. It's about cheating, doing.

01;21;38;17 - 01;21;39;00

Kevin

And.

01;21;39;24 - 01;21;42;14

Phil

That's pretty cool. Okay.

01;21;43;24 - 01;22;07;11

Kevin

This one, so good games this year. So that's what I that's what I want to play try to get into next and all of this will will share information about all of these games and probably be posting reviews on all of these games on our brand spanking new Steam group for the Pixelate podcast where you could join and follow along.

01;22;07;11 - 01;22;29;02

Kevin

I will be adding links to that on our website and we'll probably be adding that on our Twitter bio and tweeting it out and all that stuff. So you can also put it in the description of this episode. So you can just go, you can follow the Pixelate podcast Steam group and you can kind of take a look.

01;22;29;02 - 01;22;43;20

Kevin

All the, all the stuff that we talk about in the What Are You Playing segment and all of the things, all the games that are related to the books that we talk about we will be posting about in the PIXELATE Pod cast team group. So go check it out.

01;22;44;09 - 01;22;45;01

Phil

Hell yeah.

01;22;45;25 - 01;23;18;12

Kevin

That will do it for today's episode. If you can share us, share us with your friends, your family, retweet our tweets, follow us on Twitter. We'd love a good retweet, a tweet. We just retweet it and say, Hey, these guys are great. Check them out, follow us on Instagram and Twitter at Pixelate Pod. You can go to our Web site, Pixelate, Pod dot com and that's pretty much all of our social.

01;23;18;12 - 01;23;36;03

Kevin

You can find me at the Arcade Ologist. You can find Phil at El Conquistador on Twitter and if you do, you want your Instagram out there? Sure. Yeah. Bring bring Phil a Riesling. That's both a suggestion and his Instagram handle.

01;23;37;02 - 01;23;40;04

Phil

It's mostly just me posting food. I've made it. Yeah.

01;23;40;15 - 01;23;51;26

Kevin

And you can follow me on Instagram at Pixelate Kevin. So, yeah, that'll do it for tonight's episode. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening and have a good night.

01;23;52;23 - 01;23;53;07

Phil

I.

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